the president is instinctive, spontaneous and prone to action. the job of the national security adviser is to fight the instincts in any president. >> do you worry the turnover affects national security, especially now concerning the tariffs now? and does it all affect national security. >> the tariff decision is i think revealing. number one is does affect national security. but number two, back to the process question. based on reporting that looks solid, there isn't anybody in the president's economic or security circles who thought this was a good idea. in fact, there is some reporting that they had thought -- they pulled the president back from the ledge and that he wouldn't do it. and he goes out food in that meeting and makes this announcement. what's the purpose of the national security structure? what's the purpose of the