and deny tactic. that's something he's used in business, so it's not something i would put past him to do in a personal situation. >> right. of course in business he's used ndas as well, apparently in his administration. one thing that struck us today were the many similarities between the m.o. in effect of how donald trump interacted with stormy daniels, but also karen mcdougal not using protection during sex one thing, but another one that was particularly cringe worthy, i suppose you could say, i'm a father of a daughter too and i just can't imagine the circumstances of interacting with someone in this way, but stormy daniels said that he compared her to his daughter, ivanka, in a complimentary way. karen mcdougal has said the same thing. did you talk about that with stormy daniels in your interview? >> yeah, that was actually one of the most surprising things that she told me. it was again cringe worthy to me as well. again, it just shows that she is sticking to her story. the interaction is the same. it also shows a pattern that