i want to bring in cnn senior political analyst david gearingen and olivia nuzi for washington magazine. olivia, first, hope hicks is that a critical departure for the white house and president. you wrote a great piece for new york manage entitled inside the cut-throat battle to be the next hope hicks about the blood test letting between two early front runners be director of strategic communications appear treasury department spokesman tony saig. both former fox news contributors. fell us in on what source are telling you in kellyanne conway. >> source told me the president mentioned her, something part of the discussion there. and he is bringing up names like bill shine, the former fox news