all this is the president's lawyer. we assume that it has to do with the president, obviously probably does. the question is, what did the president know and was he involved in this? and if this man is as he is portrayed, as someone who fixes things, the president may not know anything about this. it would be probably normal for the president to not know of the sort of things that are problems in his life that he would like to have go away, you have people take care of them and don't bring them to your attention for a lot of different reasons. so this may be a situation where he fixed it, and he fixed it in a way that ran afoul -- potential afoul of campaign finance laws and there could be problems as a result of that. joan? >> senator what, d, what did het he didn't know about? i don't have anybody going around fixing things for me. >> you're not donald trump. >> the way you're defending him raises more questions than it