reasons why doing this would interfere with the president's work. >> earlier the "washington post" was reporting that according to their reporting, the president is now thinking of not going for an interview, not complying. that he doesn't think it's a good idea. is is that what you're hearing as well? >> that is exactly what we're hearing. i think it's become abundantly clear that the president's legal team is getting ready for a standoff, really, on a subpoena. because if a subpoena does come, there is, i think, a lot of thought inside the president's legal team that this is a line that the special counsel cannot cross, that this is something they might fight all the way to the supreme court. in their view, at least according to the president's lawyers, they believe that the special counsel doesn't have the power to force the president to go before a grand jury basically under compulsion. so i think this is something that if it comes to this, if mueller does indeed issue a subpoena, then we're going to be looking at perhaps a year of litigation, appeals process,