first of all, that tweet was incoherent. it said this was all fake news, it didn't happen, but there are leakers and traitors. the president then is the number one traitor. because you know he actually goes out to the press and he trashes his staff. he did it during the campaign. he trashes his cabinet. sometimes off the record, sometimes publicly. so this president, this all comes from the top. he hates john mccain. he'll never apologize, and he loves to leak and trash his own people on his own time. so he's got no credibility to attack anyone else in this situation. >> joan, hold on a minute. a couple things can be true at the same time. i clearly said these comments were inappropriate and shouldn't have been made. i said an apology should have been made days ago and we shouldn't have gotten to this point. at the same time, the fact that the comments were leaked out of the white house and they had a meeting about this and that then leaked out, i think, is very problematic for this white house. >> traitorous. >> i think it's traitorous. >> to repeat something about