the clinton jones case. and ruled in the case. which ended up being unanimous. there's the concept he would have to recuse by having been put on the court by this president is without precedent in our history. we have seen again this is happened many times. >> you have different facts here. you would have moul mueller. is mueller says i need you to testify. president says no. he says i'll subpoena you. i'll compel you to testify. you don't think you can subpoena us. that will be fast tracked for reviewed as a question for the supreme court. now you have a guy sitting on the court who has written maybe the only one who has written anything that i know of specifically on the issue who side with the issue going into it. how do you feel about that as a conflict? >> the fact that someone has written on a topic doesn't make it a conflict of interest.