immigration crisis at the bored and the separation of children from their parents. >> right. his numbers what we call upside down, meaning the approval is substantially lower. for a politician, this is a sign of trouble, alarm. if the numbers are upside down, closer to an election there's a real problem. if you're the president, as you get closer in this case to the midterm elections and your numbers are upside down, people who are running with you, members of the parties,al lig s lighlights -- allies, also have problems. trump banishes it with a tweet and says "i am popular, so pay no attention to the facts in front of you." >> what do you make of his supreme court pick in terms of the president's mindset? >> what i take from it is that interestingly enough, although he always talks about the deep state and complains he hates the bushes, he literally hates them -- >> the by from the bush 43 white house. >> a guy from bushland. he worked actually for h.w. bush and then the son. and he comes -- he's been