we're not a political group of people. we don't -- it's just not the way it works. i've served on a lot of developing countries, and this is the way it works there. you get a new president, you get a new prime minister. they look at the guys that they don't like politically anymore, and they pull their clearances or they pull their salaries or throw them into jail. so, this is -- this is very, in my view, you know, something that's very common in developing countries, but unfortunately, the united states ought not to be doing these types of things. >> yeah, i mean, carrie, the administration is thinking of doing these because these people have politicized intelligence, i mean, which is almost laughable if it wasn't so kind of just serious and sad, i guess. to steve's point, this is the kind of stuff you think about happening, i don't know, under mugabe in zimbabwe or some part of the world where democracy is not as prized as, you know, and dissent isn't as allowed and transparency isn't prized as it is, supposedly, here.