>> what his motivations are i think is legitimate question, one that i think the special counsel is investigating, but the policies that this president has pursued globally have served vladimir putin's interests. >> so that's a little sample of the criticism, what may have motivated president trump. let's discuss with cnn's josh campbell, fbi supervisory about and mike rodgers who is also a special agent in the fbi. gentlemen, it's great to have your vast expertise that we can call upon as well as your own intelligence and constitutional m institutional memory. the very thing president trump doesn't want to use. what does president trump have sbens intelligence? >> this is all about narrative for the president. it doesn't fit his narrative. he has a legal case where people are accusing him of publicly of collusion, accusing him of obstruction of justice. and i think to the president all