russian lawyer who now apparently or allegedly donald trump knew about coming in was coming in very specifically to have the magnitsky act repealed and very specifically to get donald trump to investigate me. that conversation was then repeated in exactly the same form by president putin in helsinki a week and a half ago. so, it's all part -- part and parcel, the same russian attempt to get rid of something that vladimir putin hates most, which are these sanctions that i was responsible for initiating. >> that's a great point, because oftentimes when people hear magnitsky act in this, they say it's magnitsky act, it's not the dirt. but it's still relevant because you say these sanctions under that act really punish people close to vladimir putin for crimes at home. they want the trump administration to get rid of them. >> andist very important to understand what happened in that meeting. in that meeting the russian