arise out of this investigation. that's one. and, two, they're doing something that the clinton administration also did, which is play impeachment politics. that is what you see when rudy giuliani comes on tv. you asked a question, is he failing his client? rudy giuliani is proving to be an awful lawyer. i mean that is what we're seeing. collusion is not a crime. that's a fact. as a democrat, as a lawyer, i can tell you that collusion's not a crime. but mail fraud is. federal elections violations is. bank fraud, wire fraud, obstruction, perjury. the list goes on and on and on. conspiracy. all of these things. the e-mails that were received by the trump campaign, the federal election commission views though as at least having a modicum of value. that means there's a conspiracy to do this and usurp those federal election laws, then you've committed a crime. and so when people say that this isn't a criminal issue, it is. but this is two tracks. impeachment politics, which they're doing a really good job of muddying the water, but there are issues out there for criminality that donald trump