and sometimes folks just don't disagree. i mean for example, i think right now as a country, i think that we're winning. i would say that some of my democratic colleagues, there are some people who differ with me ideologically might say that we're not. that is just a difference of opinion. it doesn't mean that it's four pinocchios. it just means that we view certain issues differently. >> right. there are things that the president -- i mean the ones that just jump in my head, that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 election, a million illegal immigrants voted for hillary clinton. that's why he didn't win the popular vote. biggest inauguration crowd size. he says north korea is no longer a nuclear threat. all of that is not true, correct? >> well, and there are certain points that you go through. i mean i'm sure there are a whole host of different statements that have come out from whether it be this white house or previous white houses that you could take issues with and say that they're factually incorrect or they may have gotten a statistic wrong or may have been slightly off. but i think what's a little bit difference with this white