paul manafort was much worse than other lobbyists and the main point is he was working for russia. he was working to advance russian interests in other countries. he did it in ukraine, he does it other soviet republics and seems like he did the same thing in the united states. >> so why this obsession with hillary clinton and her e-mails, kaitlan? i mean, i guess it's a strategy on his part and on the part of his supporters because every time there's something wrong that's not explainable, that hurts the president, um, hillary, uh, e-mails, uh, obama. like, it's reflexive. >> reporter: truly, and it's not just a defense tactic for the president. he truly believes that hillary clinton has not been prosecuted in the way that she should. you see there at the end of that clip, he's saying this justice department. he's referring to his own justice department with the attorney general jeff sessions who the president hand picked, same with rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, chris