priest. as if priesthood is -- well, what the theologians call an entological change of the character. that this ordination itself changes the character. when you teach that and teach it long enough and people really believe it, no wonder parents themselves went into rectories and said, father, we don't want any of this to be a problem, we don't want to hurt the church. when, as a matter of fact, the church was hurting itself in the worst possible way. >> we'll leave it there for now. sister joan chitaster, thank you so much, appreciate it. still ahead, the family of mollie tibbetts says they do not want her death politicized. this, after the president and republican lawmakers have evoked her murder to call for stronger immigration laws. will this become a dominant strategy for republicans heading into the midterm elections?