after she's worked alongside of you for 14 years, whether you like her or you don't like her, you have to ask yourself if that's the right way to treat her in the way -- in terms of exiting. as it relates to michael, i thought the president was very close to michael. he sat pretty close to him, so it's pretty hard to 100% disassociate yourself from michael. and i find it, there's a bit of sadness for me, because i like both of these people, i certainly have been very loyal to president trump and want to help and support him, and michael cohen is somebody i've known for at least a decade, and i wish him and his family well. and i don't like seeing the fight between everybody. but i think what ends up happening is, if you get on the wrong side of the president, he'll light you up on twitter, he'll light you up to his friends and he may want to rethink that, because i don't know if that's necessarily helping him. i look at -- you take away this personal stuff and you take away the intrigue of this week and you look at that employment day