interaction with other gamers. how important will they be in this investigation? >> sure. i have heard people on social media talking about the violent video imagery and how that desensitizes youth. as the governor's point, these are generally speaking disaffected young white men. what is causing that? the access to video games. i understand this was a football tournament. this had nothing to do with call of duty or any of those other violent war games. in many instances, the thing that separates some of the young men from families, from co-workers, from friends is the ability to disappear into their basement, lose themself in a game and kind of just morph out of reality. do some of the games desensitize youth? absolutely. i'm not a psychologist or sociologist, but absolutely. again, as you say all the time, it's not a one step problem. these are all a lot of things that we have to bring together outside of a vacuum and try to