someone who served the country as senator mccain did. was that disappointing? >> there was. and i think the world of mike hayden, we've had some differences but very few over the years. one of those at the time was one on which senator mccain spoke with enormous moral force and that was the issue of enhanced interrogation technique which is he opposed and, in fact, the field manual that we produced when i was a three star in the states between the three and four star tours in iraq, same year as the counterinsurgency field manual, that manual on treatment of detainees did not include that provision and senator mccain gave that the force of law for the military and the entire u.s. government together with senator die kwlor feinstein. >> we don't you have been get you in the morning, largely because i think you don't like to be in the morning fray.