mentors. the nicest, most generous person you ever want to meet. so i congratulate you, tyler. that's not the only thing tyler is doing. he's helping a lot of people. you know i interviewed geoffrey, right? did you get to meet him when he was here? >> i did not, but i saw the interview. >> he's a good -- he's a great guy, very humble, and he understands there's no good job and no bad job. some you may like more than others, but, you know, having a job and being able to support your family is what everyone wants. and if he has to work at trader joe's or wherever, i don't see anything wrong with that. >> i just -- i don't get what they were thinking by shaming him. >> yeah. >> i don't get what the play was. think about what he represents. >> you know what he said, though? >> he quit the job because he didn't want to embarrass trader joe's. he called his kid because obviously his whole motivation was to make him proud. that's why he's working wherever he can. it's everything we applaud.