>> eric: how many chances do you have to be born as what you are or what i am? in that entire universe. >> anthony: isn't that worrying to you? the next life cannot be possibly better than this? it's probably going to suck. i mean, best case scenario, you know, in our next life, maybe if you get to sit in a sub-shop in asbury park, new jersey, that will be the greatest day of your life. that would be the best-case scenario. >> eric: but the most challenging. >> anthony: more likely you end up, you know, a mime. a diseased itinerant mime wandering the streets scrounging for money or worse. >> eric: you're a desperate case. i don't know what to do with you. >> anthony: i'm just saying. how much better can it be than this? enjoy every minute of this now, eric, and pray, pray, pray that this is it. that at the end of the day, they roll you into a hole in the ground and you're diet for worms, because if you're right and there is a next life we are -- my friend. >> eric: well, the ultimate idea is to be enlightened. to come back and help as many people as you can so all phenomenons of life, and what you perceive as reality, is ultimately one.