scene, and local of course. we know the new york state police and ntsb are working together, but in fact, they are investigating separately as well as concurrently. what are the upsides and perhaps the down sooisides of these two separate investigations? >> of course new york state has the job and the duty to do so many things in an investigation, but it's the ntsb that can make recommendations. again, congress passed them in 2015 to look at limo crashes and loss of life in limo crashes. the ntsb can make recommendations. now, they can't change the law. but they can make reports and publish their most wanted list and publish their recommendations for safety. it will be this data, i think that, can push the national highway traffic safety administration to say, yes, the cost-benefit analysis has changed, and it is worth the investment to require these changes. that's why i think it's so important that both new york and the ntsb are involved. >> all right.