the party. >> he's talking to knowledgeable people on both sides. this is going to surprise a lot of people, but when president obama was there there were a lot of celebrities who went. it was like hollywood east coast the white house and nobody complained, and it was considered normal. we have a very different relationship -- >> but people ever said that the 13th amendment should be abolished. do you understand what i'm say say ing >> don't do that. he was talking about the presidents part -- >> van, don't do that. come on, man. sit here and be honest. know what you're talking about. he doesn't know. he's a very powerful person with a high profile who is spouting off things that don't make sense. he has a lot of followers who start to believe it, and it's not true. and it doesn't make sense. if you're going to sit down with the president of the united states, whether you're a hollywood liberal or a hollywood conservative or a midwest conservative, whatever it is, you should know what you're