contrary to what some critics may say, it's important to me that we saw him work the systems sometimes. >> anthony: you couldn't actually show humans penetrating each other? >> toshio: so i invented tentacles to be evasive of our law. >> anthony: so, how big is the sadomasochistic community? how many people are active participants? i would never do that as a responsible journalist, but i am interested in investigating it. >> joy: did you smoke it? >> anthony: yeah, i smoked it. i can't compare and contrast because i've been trying them all one after the other. i'm trying to be respectful of a 5th-century religious tradition here. um, i'm not sure about the teeth. >> darren: this is the necklace ones. >> anthony: i'm trying to think of a circumstance where you could wear that around your neck. oh, jeez, it's a cock-alanche. i'm confused. what does it all mean? no, no, it can't be over. not yet, no! >> andy: there was kind of a lethal juvenilia to tony that was appealing on some level, but a little bit tiresome after a while.