the rule of law in these critical positions. it is don mcgahn refusing to execute this order that prevents it from happening. i think that highlights how incredibly problematic it is to have somebody like matt whitaker, somebody who made public statement suggesting hostility to the mueller investigation, who has not taken steps to recuse himself consistent with doj guidelines, that's a red flag that whenever we have a president with these impulses, he wants to violate these rules, he wants to violate the basic principles of the rule of law, he is removing the very individuals who over the past two years have been in a position and had sort of the fortitude to push back against him. >> wolf, i think it all gets to the idea that president trump believes the government works for him, that the government is now there to serve him because he is the president of the united states. so all of these people should do whatever he wants them to do on any given day. he sort of abdicates himself from the traditional responsibility we see from presidents, what we would expect from the leader of our government that they would say, the government is here to work for the american people, we are