and the whole colin powell testimony which turned out not to be 100% true. >> yep. >> and so that's some level of skepticism he used to bring up inside the campaign. he's trying to let the american people know, listen, i'm hand checking or double checking the information. >> he doesn't check any of it. he doesn't even read it. they have to force him to take a briefing. john kelly had to restructure his day to get him to pay a little attention to policy. he's not rechecking anything, anthony. >> now what's happening, you got guys that are leaking on the president. hopefully -- >> thank god somebody's telling the truth. i mean, who are we supposed to go with, sarah sanders. >> you got these disloyal very -- >> maybe they are loyal but to the country. >> operative sort of guys. >> maybe they're loyal to the country. >> i wholly a totnd totally dise with that, chris. i said it to jake tapper, the notion these people need to protect the country from the president is a bunch of nonsense. >> really? >> i said that 18 months ago and will say it today.