talk to a farmer about when they had to hire somebody. this is a sign. take it as a sign and make something happen. >> so you're saying that he is wrong on this issue. >> i think that if you're in the hospitality industry or the service industry you know there are going to be people working for you -- >> okay, scott, then why does he demonize people? he knows better. that's the whole reason that people criticize him, because as a business owner, someone who owns hotels, is in the service industry he knows what's up. >> i think it's fine to demonize if that's what you want to call it people who come here for nefarious purposes but these folks come here to work. and they work for him. and i would just say there's an opportunity here to make lemons into lemonade by finally leading the republican party to get this issue solved. >> don't drag they into this. but chris, i've got to ask you. he never says -- he never admits what scott is saying right now. he just continues to demonize immigrants in the country. people who come -- so-called folks in the caravan and on and