resolve in case he was hit by a bus, for example. >> right, they were talk bing abo about getting all of it away from david pecker. they were worried if david peck e as trump said, hit by a bus, who knows where the files would end up? >> all of the stuff doesn't include simply one particular payment to karen mcdougal. you can -- obviously david pecker also has immunity to discuss things as part of ami as well, so you can look at this scenario and think to yourself, well, obviously tip of the iceberg includes all the information that ami would have provided to the team and sdny that would incentivize them to not prosecute ultimately. that decision is not made lightly by prosecutors. they would have to have a comprehensive view of all information that was available where they said, you know mwhat i'm going to foreclose my opportunity to prosecute you knowing full well cohen pled guilty to something you agreed to orchestrate in some way and we found that criminal and asked for jail time. it's odd. >> gloria, the president calling cohen a liar, yeah, of course,