discussed, democrats and members of congress said their staffers not to mention the president also keeps changing his mind on what he's trying to accomplish. if you look at the different things he's said in the past week alone he's said, quote, mexico was playing for the wall. and this usmca. much of the wall is built already. the wall will be concrete. then the wall will be steel. he will declare a national emergency to build the wall. what message does all this send? >> it sends a message that the president feels he's very much cornered. he's in an awkward situation. frankly, he put himself and nancy pelosi got him into a corner in which he's inevidently going to keep the government closed for a long time and pay a price for that, or he's going to compromise in some fashion. in which he'll look weak. that's a thing he detests as you well know.