the oval office tomorrow night at 9:00. trying to make the case for his promised border wall. let's bring in mark preston and kirsten powers. good evening to both of you. so we'll talk about that. because an individual is on the terror list -- >> it doesn't mean they're an active terrorist. you have to look at what the threat is coming across the border to what the response is from president trump, and also the congress people who represent the border. and what you have is a whole mix of confusion but literally what comes out at the end, don, is they'll tell you that donald trump's solution to build a wall is not the answer. >> let me ask you and then i'll bring kirsten in. he's going to make his prime time speech tomorrow night. he's going to visit the southern border on thursday. he's trying to manufacture a border crisis, misinformation. >> this is where he's going. >> is that going to help him get his wall? >> i don't i don't know. listen, if he does an emergency act and he taps into that money, we're going to get into a legal fight. but he may win that as well.