president to come out and actually take the american people to school on this in primetime and say when i call it a disaster, this is what i mean. there is a spike in illegal crossings, there is a spike in violence. this is what a wall would do, among other things to solve this problem. he has not done that heretofore because those numbers have not changed because it's a singular symbolic issue other than other issues to force democrats to concede there are real problems for border security and we need to support, so how do we go about doing that. marc has to -- doesn't have to be accountable right here but he was part of the administration when they had more money offered to democrats for the wall and they said no to that deal because they didn't like some other aspects of it. >> you have a question for marc? >> marc, i want to get back to