through airports and back to the terrorism point and the fact that this government shutdown is continuing, doesn't that then effect -- you have folks showing up and not getting paid, isn't that a double whammy there. >> i had some conversations with the former -- >> what are they saying? >> they're worried. more than a third of them today are family members with children or minor children. and they're worried that this fixation and incredible focus which is potentially homegrown extremists. people in the united states plotting terror attacks. we're not hearing about that. there's very little focus to that. the dhs apparatus has been shifted to focus on these south american families. >> this is your wheelhouse, what is the one thing that you think he should be doing? >> to be fair to them, the