so the coast guard is saying pick up dog zblawalk. >> it's incredible. you have heard from republicans and democrats really over the last few weeks that are the past problem with the negotiations is the president keeps changing his mind. how do you negotiate with somebody -- >> that's certainly a problem. but when you have mike pence in the room and he says what's your counteroffer, it's just i understand all this history and how we got here and why people are bitter. but if yesterday was the moment to make a counteroffer, why not make one? >> you know who doesn't matter in this negotiation? mike pence. mike pence has been in there making offers before and then the president -- >> mike pence is the person that went up to capitol hill and assured mitch mcconnell that the president was on board with the plan to keep the government open. why should anyone in the room, republican or democrat. >> i -- that it's hard to negotiate with jell-o, as chuck schumer zbled or candy. mike pence is the one yesterday, the vice president of the united states -- >> i think that's persuasive. >> it was a butter finger. >> that that's a terrible canned. >> i was so happy that he