were to start up again, with the government reopen, could you vote, will you vote for some new fencing? >> only if the government is open will i even consider such an idea, and it has to be part of a bigger package. but there have been proposals on the table before. last year the herd aguilar proposal that included components of border security, including some big physical barriers where it makes sense but really with a focus on the ports of entry and on personnel and on dealing with the immigration backlog and these other aspects so important. it has to be part of an overall package but we don't need to be so fixated on writing everything off. we need to say that, look, we're coming back to the table with an open mind. we have -- i think everybody across the board has written off this concept of a wall. and so now it's what makes sense. how are we negotiating this with respect to the most logical solutions that are going to be as effective and meet the needs of the american people.
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