helpful to you. because you were getting something out of it. not because what you thought what he was doing was wrong by saying racist and exhibiting racist behavior, but because in this transaction, you got something out of it that was helpful to you. >> don, let me just say this. i'm talking two years ago, i'm talking six years ago, i'm talking ten years ago. in the state of iowa, steve king was helpful. the people of iowa certainly in his district and across the state, he had the great support. i've been with him flying over his district when they were, they were suffering from floods. i've been with him when he was talking about the need for the support for ethanol, when he was talking about agriculture in iowa. these are issues that -- >> alice, i've got to get to the break. i'm going to get in trouble. symone, i'll let you speak on the other side, because i have to get to the break and we'll play what the president says and see if it's different, how it's different than steve king. we'll be right back. improve our workflow.