reporting, they would be willing to take you know some sort of compromise to basically end this. it's gone on and on for them and it's not been good for the polling and their data. they're looking to dangle things out there to make democrats come to the table. whether or not that will move the number, it seems unclear to me. but what they're trying to do is change the perception from the president. remember when he was in the oval office with schumer saying i'm proud to shut down the government. i'm very happy to do that. they're trying to change that perception from where the president is owning the shutdown to look, we're being reasonable, giving proposals, compromises n and the democrats aren't there. polling shows that hasn't been successful. i think you're goung to see more of that as they try to change how people view their shutdown. >> i was talking to phil on capitol hill last hour and i can't remember how many days it's been, but neither side is literal ly talking to one another.