republicans would consider -- >> i know a lot of -- i won't say a lot, this is anecdotal, this is unscientific. i could vote for joe biden. >> i keep hearing that about joe biden. the other thing i was surprised with, to see sherrod brown, who's probably the best democrat you've never heard of be polling at 21%. nipping on the heels of a cory booker even. that shows you something else that's happening in our party. sherrod brown is a working class champion. >> midwestern. >> working class champion for the democratic party. this guy, he'll bring you to tears talking about a waitress. who does that kind of stuff. >> you had a great conversation the other day, this week you're talking to julian castro. let's listen to what he had to say about biden. >> i get the sense out there that people want a new generation of leadership. i travelled a lot during the last two years supporting candidates in the 2018 cycle.