decried president obama's use of executive power to legislate. we were right then. but the only way to be an honest office holder is to stand up for the same principles no matter who is in power. what do you think of his rational? >> i'm a great admirer of rand paul. i think there's the legal question as to whether or not dru donald trump has the legal right to declare this emergency, which i think is an open and shut case. but then individual senators have to decide whether that law that congress passed and the supreme court up held whether that law is something they want to support in this case. he's got the right to make that call. have no impact on what happens with the emergency, because of course donald trump will veto anything that goes to his desk. >> what he's talking about the hypocrisy of it. he's saying as you know, matt, you guys couldn't stand it when president obama went around congress and when he used some sort of executive order. >> you're right. >> you couldn't stand it.