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speech that the president gave, it was almost a conversation he's was talking to people in the audience throughout it. it was an extraordinary event. >> well, i mean people also felt that you used their term amped up, we've heard the term sort of unhinged. people thought he was giving his own self-preservation defense there, just that it had gotten to him. that the week after michael cohen had gotten to him and he felt the need for two hours to kind of justify where he was. >> well, i do think there's a little bit of political therapy that goes on between donald trump and the cpac audience. i mean, there is -- it didn't -- it wasn't always in this spot and it's come to the point where the people who come to cpac are really heartened and vindicated by the things that president trump is doing. there's genuine affection for him and i think he feels the same way. i'm sure there are democratic politicians that have their place where's they go and there's great affection in the audience. and i think the longer he spoke, the more it was telling that -- that this relationship is there. and the crowd -- and the crowd

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