about the possible obstruction into michael flynn's cooperation with the special counsel, cnn's senior justice correspondent evan perez joins me now. this is quite remarkable. it flit in a broader pattern of flynn saying he got a message from the president, hey, wouldn't be so great if you cooperate, not unlike other messages we have heard from other witnesses or even public comments the president has made. how significant is this flynn evidence? >> this flynn evidence, which was already baked into the mueller report, obviously, really just kind of shines a light on what exactly was happening. what kind of obstructive behavior was going on behind the scenes that we didn't know about. this, according to the special counsel, some of the stuff, they didn't even know about until michael flynn came forward and shared it with them, including outreach from people associated with the administration or congress, according to the special counsel in this newly unredacted porgs of the documents, jim. i'll read you a part of what the special counsel says. the sequence of event could have