about it? >> it might. he signed an order, an executive order, number 13 last summer, that devolves a lot of power to cyber command to take actions like this without coming up for presidential approval. but when we did our reporting, we discovered that in fact there has not been extensive briefings that we could find any indication of that suggest the president understood the depth of the operation. >> evan, you're reaction to the president apparently not knowing. >> yeah, look, in conventional and normal times, certainly this would put a president at a disadvantage or perhaps not prepare him as well as he could be prepared to sit down with putin. but we're not in normal times. this isn't a conventional president. this is a president who came to power with the support of russian backing. this is a president who as recently as this week is saying