country, things are about to get much worse. >> because, let's make it really, break it down. because the way they draw these districts and have some fun, go see how these districts are drawn, it's like the most ridiculous puzzle this you've ever seen in your entire life. the way they're drawn, and the way they're now going to continue to be drawn or more so is meaning the extremes are going to win. the left has got to be more left and right has got to be more right and those are the candidates that are going to win. >> the red states get more red and blue states get more blue. voters in the middle who supposedly create the moderating effect in elections when people try to win general elections, they're increasingly an endangered species. that's bad for our democracy and why the argument doesn't ultimately fly. in the case of north carolina, 53% of the popular vote went to republicans, but they won 70% of the congressional seats. so the reason our democracy isn't functioning as a deliberative body is you don't have to ability to bridge he has divides anymore and the idea that congress is going to solve