candidate did this. this resulted in them going up in the polls. at the next debate, i want to do that, i want to be that peshmerga. >> i think what you'll start seeing right away and it will culminate in a new vibe that will certainly be at play when we're doing the next one, hey, i have to get after somebody. i have to start talking about this president more and how i'm going to take him out. that was a mistake that i didn't say it the last time. i'm going to find somebody and take them out like this is a nascar race. i'm going to find somebody a position or two in front of me, figure out what's wrong with them and i'm going to be ready to go because, boy, does the media love that. >> that approach tonight, i think it's the key one, marianne williamson. we laughed at her, but she did have that one pretty lucid moment where she said what it will take to beat donald trump is not a bunch of white papers. what it will take is an emotional appeal, similar to the one that he capitalized on. >> and her call to the head of new zealand. >> right. >> right. >> first one. first call. >> that's the first call.