>> let's move on, joe, but the more he drags this on. >> he did apologize on segregationists. >> i mean, apologize in the sense of he's -- he's deflecting by attacking kamala harris and making this an issue and giving this story legs. it doesn't have to be. he wrote a letter to senator james eastland basically thanking him for his support of his anti-busing bill. this is not something that's debatable. nobody wants to talk about what happened in 1970, but it does have some impact on what's happening on 2020 if the candidate who has that record doesn't at least acknowledge, it apologize for it and move forward. >> this is interesting. i want to put these polls up. south carolina, a new fox news poll, among black voters who make up the majority of likely democratic voters, 41% biden and 15% sanders and 12% harris, 4% booker, 2% warren. new poll out tonight from cnn. there's a new poll out from cnn, biden 25, and then there's a tight race for second.