that's what's wrong. >> what i hope becomes a metaphor issue in this election, i believe it's an assemblage of a lot of things we have to deal with right now, the one thing that this president never hammers in his harshness of how to stop this, stop these people, are the hirers. it's not because he's one of them. good forbid, anybody judge him for all of the illegal workers that he has. those are the money interests. those are the power interests. and he has chosen to go at the little guy, even though he's supposed to be the champion of the little guy. and it's interesting to watch, i was watching your face tonight when we were showing those images and listening to the lawmakers, what do you make of what's happening in there? >> i think it's -- he's deliberately doing something really awful. he's trying to stop a thing -- he doesn't want little brown people coming into the country. he doesn't like little black people, he doesn't like little brown people. he doesn't want them in the