happening and he has to remind voters what that was. and remind people how the crime was impacting communities, because there were a lot of black and brown people who were needlessly ensnared in the criminal justice system because of what he put out. >> what's going to come up, especially with kamala harris and cory booker go after him -- which by the way the biden campaign is assuming. because they said this morning we know a lot of people are going to try to weaponize his service in congress. you've got the fact that kamala harris has a record as a prosecutor, so that then is going to be examined and fair game for biden to bush back on. and for cory booker in knew wer and his time, that could be a vulnerability. >> and you saw joe biden in the last debate, he had the line noting that he was a public defender. that was a swipe at kamala harris. but you are going to see him standing on the debate stage with kamala harris and cory booker surrounding him and you already have cory booker responding to this plan today.