declaration. that statute had a specific purpose in taking the purse strings away from congress. i don't know how this fits. >> chris, in this case i completely agree with you president trump is completely out of line in trying to use emergency powers for the border. but in terms of the climate crisis we can see the damage it's doing. we can see the damage that it's going to do, the absolute threat to our country. and we've got to turn the page on this conversation from talk and inaction to immediate action. >> i don't disagree. >> it has to happen and that's what i'm doing by declaring a state of emergency on day one. >> that's where we disagree. i get the first part, that you need to be a persuader in chief. you need to form consensus, and that has to motivate congress to satisfy the appetite for different and change on the part of their constituents. but if you just do an end run and do a power play that further messes up our checks and balances how are you any better than what we have there now? >> well, let me put it to you this way, chris.