the chinese government while way denies those assertions. hopefully a constructive conversation today when new talks between the u.s. and chinese trade delegations begin let's go now to our financial correspondent frank for daniel cope daniel what do investors want to see out of these talks. well stephen you can be very sure that if there is something what investors don't like at all here behind me at the frankfurt stock exchange and also at other exchanges around the world is certainty when we think about those i'm going talks and then sometimes very harsh rhetoric between the united states and china it is very clear that investors are hoping for a solution to happen and of course there favored a scenario would be an agreement without terence because when we take a look at the equity market for example also here in frankfurt the blue chip index dax lost during the last twelve months more than nine percent also because of this