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afghanistan, abandon that effort. close guantanamo and make loving, cooing noises with ahmadnejad and so forth. it hasn't turned out that way and i think some of those voters are either you know, dropping out of the electorate or are voting on other issues where they're more inclined to support the republicans, fascinati fascinating. what about the theory i've heard often that president obama and the democrats this time are doing the worse in those parts of the country, includes ohio and pennsylvania where hillary clinton beat barack obama in the primaries. that is particularly among white voters, middle class, working class, white voters. do you see any signs of that? >> yeah, i do see signs of that. i mean, the bottom seems to have dropped out for the democrats at least fisher in northeast ohio in cuyahoga county, a particularly messy scandal with i believe it's the democratic county chairman and members. county commission there. you know, payoffs at a roman

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