what will. what will stop these things opening of people's eyes. joining us, brad thor and his new book the is out november 23rd. done, what was the ready thing. >> the red cell program for the department of homeland security. >> he's war gaming with the government for a while. the thing that people always miss when i talk to people in finance, high finance, goldman sachs, they say we've got systems to protect but they never watch their back door. they never watch -- they don't recognize the radicals that are all around in our own government and own country, in other governments, other countries. and the number of people that would like to see capitalism in america fail, it's a dog pile right now.