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been very clear, that if we're going to keep those tax rates for anyone, we're going to keep them low for everyone. so i don't see this happening. one other point i'd like to make, rick, in washington state this year, there was a millionaire tax on the ballot, in liberal washington state, and it failed by about 65 percent of the vote. americans know that rich people, whether they're talking about warren buffet or bill gates or lead gaga or tiger woods, those are the people that create the jobs in this economy. rick: republicans have been saying if you only keep the taxes lower for those making less than 250, you're going to sock a lot of small business owners. >> that's right. iraq rick these are small businesses that really do create the bulk of the jobs in this country. by raising it to a million, senator schumer says that would really include virtually all small businesses. is he right? >> well, except here's the problem. as you increase the income threshold, $500,000, a million, 50 million, what you're doing is you're taxing business in corks

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